Cheating Incidence in Bacon

We have more cheating in Bacon. I have sent a ticket.

This time khana got someone else to declare these multiple wars, and he only joined 2 of the 3 of them.
Still, this is obviously some kind of cheating scam. This isnt strategy. This is cheating! There's no way for us to win if you break us into pieces.

We're getting pretty tired of this behavior.

http://i.imgur.com/sNR2dR8.jpg

Defendants:  Vilorp  Khana

Players that have already joined wars/ those directly affected:

Jakobyte
Heror
Yorke
Jantex  

Cleo  

Saul  

xREdNightx  

Aunt_Jemima  

 Albreht  

RoKeNx2

 Izzie

I won't be surprised at all if more wars are created in the next day or so. These players should not be playing at all. I think they should be kicked from this server for repeating these scams.

I haven't been following this too closely, but it does look to me like the wars on Hauzenberg and Bohemia have been declared to pass. Afaik Bohemia was asked for RoW prior to declaring. Sure, they should have asked them to join the Krakow-Locarno war and waited those 36 hours, but in all fairness, that war has been open for 6 years now, so you guys had a lot of time to join everybody. Either way, it does not look like the aim here was to cheat.

Referes are not slaves at your service to kick/ban players you don't like. 

There is nothing new here, people take one rule who was made to prevent abuse and find one way to use this exact same rule to take advantage of it and penalize other honest players. 

About the rule of the '36hours ultimatum' it was originally from an Europe 850 case, where burgundians attacked many spanish players one after an other in one row, to 'access' lands. And creating a mess in the process. 

But now, people just use this rules to prevent from being attacked at all, by playing an hardcore timer where every allies refuse to play or communicate, by not joining war nor signing row. And as such blocking completely the attacker side to access his target. And thoses players thinks they're smarter than everyone else and that we won't see through such a lame behavior 

Anyway, Khana and Vilorp won't ever being punished for playing the game (or at least trying...) at least not by me. 

In my opinion, if you get any disavantadges in the futures situations to come, this will be only your own fault for not playing this game fair and square as it is supposed to be played, from the start. 

Back in time, your ennemies were'nt waiting one week to each of your neighbors to get to you. If you guys have decided to not call your allies and gather together, you gotta take full responsability for your actions. It's not the attacker fault.

And crying about cheat and asking for bans, for situations you created, against players who are only trying to play this game is ridiculous. Please kindly understand thoses behaviors must stop, for your own gaming experience. 

Good luck to both side 

 

Anyway, Khana and Vilorp won't ever being punished for playing the game (or at least trying...) at least not by me. 

 

In my opinion, if you get any disavantadges in the futures situations to come, this will be only your own fault for not playing this game fair and square as it is supposed to be played, from the start. 

 

Back in time, your ennemies were'nt waiting one week to each of your neighbors to get to you. If you guys have decided to not call your allies and gather together, you gotta take full responsability for your actions. It's not the attacker

I t seems Saber is apparently an unofficial referree for Bacon server.  There's usually fire where there's smoke, saber.  You might give that some thought and not simply write off a particular person's complaints just because you don't like them.

Also, it now seems that the Iberian side won't need luck since it seems he's taken sides in this matter.  

Ever hear of "impartiality," Saber?  In my book, it's pretty much synonymous with "referee."

Perhaps we could hear from an Admin or whomever would be appropriate for this matter too arrange a fair game for ALL sides, rather than just the Iberians.

Feel free to ask anyone. 

I'm not going to post a long list of players who refuse to write tickets to you because you are not "fair" in their opinion.

People don't bother anymore. They just quit the server, instead. No one trusts you.

I'm close to giving up, but I still write to you, and all you do is tell me how I'm being unfair. I have no idea how you can blame the victim, but you seem really good at it. Maybe you should be a lawyer.

Oh, and by the way multiple wars again. Same player. Not even sure I should write a ticket.

What would the point be?

ok So I have a question. Is it or is not, against the rules to start a war just to pass through someones lands. I see nothing against it in the rules. it only says to point allies in multiple directions so they can not fight as one. Can a ref please clarify this.

I have witness 2 things. I have seen khana start wars just to pass through peoples lands to get some where. hell he started enough wars to get from spain to pomeranian and to keep his supply lines open.

I have also seen him start wars to keep his enemies from fighting as one. I watched as those enemies  still pursued him and trap him. Even then he ended all those wars and attacked the weakest player just to make her vassal then run away and declare more wars.

So please clarify this for me.

Thanks

izzie izzie and his puppets....you acuse me on mulltywar again ......and why not tell why i start last war....why not tell about Hof why stay in your town and is neutral in Krakow and Locarno war....and about your another mate Stoorm why just start wars with al my vasalls just like that...i not write ticket becouse im not ike you....just to watch for something and write or cry in public chat ...."Why Spain hate me probably dont like woman....after loose some soldiers"....Jesus just stand and rise again and go to batte...i start to be piss off just to wait for what next you can accuse me ...or some of yours pupet....i just hope they have different country ....not like you .....or they just your friends ....

khana. i do not know what feud you have with izzie. that has nothing to do with me. I am just asking a simple question. I want the rule clarified here and now by the refs and admin. it seems every time I ask them a question its goes ignored. Just like the question I asked here. no response from them. I see nothing in the rules that say you cannot start wars to pass through someone's terry or to keep you supply lines open.

I look at it like this. if the usa want to attack russia and they fly through canada to do so. then its up to canada to say yes, no, or kill the planes that cross into their country. god should not get involved. in this case the admins and refs are god.  If i declare war on 3 cities to pass it should be up to them to kill my troops if my invasion is unwanted. not the refs. I for one do not care that you do this or that anyone does this. I do care when one does it and nothing is said. Then  another does it and they get in trouble.

So again. i ask what is the official rule.